Fedora has been shipping with a broken screen reader for NINE YEARS but the real problem is me
#fedora #accessibility #a11y #ableism #RedHat #IBM #Linux #OpenSource
@aral desktop Linux users have gotten used to things breaking or being indefinitely broken that nobody notices what actually works and what doesn't. Fedora also has a rep for potentially having the worst most entitled package maintainers, potentially even worse than debian.
Wishing everyone that relies on these tools hard luck to be honest.
@aral This is awful! I didn't think the linux community would be so disrespectful about accessibility and attack someone personally for giving them valid critical feedback. I'm sorry you had this experience and were left with no accessible option.
@aral when you are harassing the people working on fixing it instead of directing your 40k followers toward funding those people then yes, you are the problem
https://social.treehouse.systems/@TheEvilSkeleton/112660261861372302
@aral linux can run the most obscure hardware, but then servicing a minority part of the populatiin is not possible?
So pathetic.
I also hate wayland. Just because there is no xdotool and no screensaver.
And their lack of is probably related to having also a broken screen reader.
@aral @Tamasg Wish you all the best and I hope you can get back on your feet after so many attacks for just stating the obvious. As a blind individual myself who trys Linux over and over again just to cave and use something where I can actually get work done I respect you a ton to raise awareness of the technical problems as well as the ableist ones. Thank you and be save
ㅤ★ㅤ♡♦@aral Jesus. I really want this transition of everyday computer use to Linux pretty smoothly. It is great that you express your feelings, we need room for that. 
@aral I found the attacks on you for being white the most heinous, from people who call themselves mutuals and have obviously not watched any of your talks or read your posts here or in the other place
As if being white would invalidate anything you are saying
@aral just realized US and Russia have the same great red, white and blue
@aral yes. The problem is you. And the problem is in Wayland and rest of stack.
Bitching the project does not help. Look are there solutions, do someone is working on screen reader for Wayland environment.
Help them with testing as it looks like you know how it should work.
@aral It has long seemed to me that it would be prudent for corporations which derive their revenue from Linux to pool resources and invest in an accessibility effort. For example, they could support the current work of the GNOME Foundation, while educating their own software developers in accessibility and setting appropriate internal policies (e.g., proper testing, accessibility as a release requirement). This has never happened, however, suggesting to me that they'd all rather wait until the law compels them to change course. Meanwhile, very under-resourced, and dedicated, accessibility work continues. The regulatory environment is also changing for the better, e.g., the European Accessibility Act addresses "consumer" computers and operating systems, and it comes into effect next year.
@aral 1/n Yes, that's a big problem not only on the Linux platform but also on the mobile as well. My eyes are ok, but my husband eyes are oversensitive to light and bright backgrounds, interfaces, etc. In addition, I have worked in medicine with blind and visually impaired people for many years and hence I know the importance of this whole situation. Those people are literally pushed into the social margins. Often also discriminated in many life situations where they absolutely shouldn't be.
@aral 2/n For example.. Toots, posts full of emojis are very problematic for screen readers apps. Many of them are unable to process such text, some even breaks, hangs or force close as well on that. Second one are bank apps, where lots of banks are blocking any option to read the screen. No screenshoting available, no use of screen readers etc. Not mentioning about such simple thing like implementation of the dark/high contrast mode and/or zooming text, menus etc. of the UI. There's nothing.
@aral 3/n And what should such people do? How they can use average, simple things and tasks of normal life? Where in many countries living without any barriers is an constitutionally written privilege for anyone, not only impaired people. And especially for such people. In those countries doing against, contrary is even considered as a violation of actual law. For example In Germany people have since many years laws called "AGG" - The General Act on Equal Treatment.
@aral 4/n Those laws are like a book of rules what is allowed, what's not, how some things must be done, how they can't be made etc. If a company, institution, or any private person breaks them, can be sued, punished and such. Very easily and without any exceptions. Punishment are sometimes pretty heavy and expensive as well. That's why people there doesn't break those laws and rules no matter what. If an developer is doing something he is obligated to do that together with those rules and laws.
My take on patches welcome would be a patch that removes Wayland, but your response is valid, too.
@aral wow, just reading the thread, I don't know why but I'm not surprised. Solidarity Aral!
@WestphalDenn @Tamasg Sending you lots of love and here’s hoping some folks do some reflecting and things really do change at a systemic/cultural level.
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@aral for everyone actually interested into improving #a11y on linux please donate (or at least follow) https://fosstodon.org/@accesskit
@docRekd Putting aside the insinuation that I’m not actually interested in improving accessibility on Linux, where does one donate? I couldn’t find a donation link there or on the site.
@aral @docRekd scroll down the website, there's a "Sponsor the Project" link: https://github.com/sponsors/mwcampbell